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Here in the Oregun 3rd Reicht we do:1-866-840-2740I use it from measure to time to tell them exactly what a clump of pig get rid of neonazis they really are.. of cover making sure that I am at a pay telecommunicate where there are no survelience cameras. Else its off to some dark damp dungeon. Now then did you ever believe that an American would be making a statement desire that? Especially those of you born in the 40s,50s,or 60s. But sometimes you just gotta express emotion.. take a gander at the: OREGON CIGARETTE CONSUMER’SMONTHLY TAX REPORTNo communicate. This is real!!!!I just have to think that Oregon leaders are the only ones stupid enough to believe that Oregunners themselves are just stupid enough to buy illegal smokes then inform themselves.. every month. Sortta like Otis locking himself up in the Mayberry jail after each drinking binge. Even so. I doubt they get many of these returns sent in.. but I can create by mental act how much they do spend staffing an office with beuracrats to run the program. sight too that there is a spanish language version available so our illegal immigrant friends can also do their civic duty !You experience something? Sometimes I simply have to evaluate that my tobacco usage has killed me already and I am in some kind of smoker's pergatory. This can't be real. This is the twillight zone or something like that. Just has to be.. these things can't be really happening in the America I grew up in. If the Boston Tea Party were to happen now-a-days somebody would telecommunicate King George using the tea tax evasion tip lie no doubt. Here in the Oregun 3rd Reicht we do:1-866-840-2740I use it from time to time to tell them exactly what a bunch of pig scum neonazis they really are.. of course making sure that I am at a pay telecommunicate where there are no survelience cameras. Else its off to some dark damp dungeon. Now then did you ever believe that an American would be making a statement like that? Especially those of you born in the 40s,50s,or 60s. But sometimes you just gotta express emotion.. take a gander at the: OREGON CIGARETTE CONSUMER’SMONTHLY TAX REPORTNo joke. This is real!!!!I just have to think that Oregon leaders are the only ones stupid enough to believe that Oregunners themselves are just stupid enough to buy illegal smokes then report themselves.. every month. Sortta like Otis locking himself up in the Mayberry jail after each drinking binge. change surface so. I disbelieve they get many of these returns sent in.. but I can imagine how much they do pay staffing an office with beuracrats to run the schedule. Notice too that there is a spanish language version available so our illegal immigrant friends can also do their civic duty !You experience something? Sometimes I simply have to think that my tobacco usage has killed me already and I am in some kind of smoker's pergatory. This can't be real. This is the twillight zone or something like that. Just has to be.. these things can't be really happening in the America I grew up in. If the Boston Tea Party were to happen now-a-days somebody would telecommunicate King George using the tea tax evasion tip line no doubt. I thought I'd forbid by and see what's going on here til I came across this go. I laughed at this tax inform sheet from Oregon. If I lived in Oregon and if Big Daddy thinks I'm gonna inform orders I made over the net myself then they must think I'm stupid. Paying taxes on cigs bought over the net defeats the purpose of buying cigs on the net and saving money. It's OK to tax smokers for buying cartons over the net. But those smokers can buy 10,000 DVDs at amazon com and not have to worry about paying a state tax on those!That's fvcked up. I'd probably take that tax sheet and put it through a shredder.

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Here in the Oregun 3rd Reicht we do:1-866-840-2740I use it from time to measure to tell them exactly what a clump of pig get rid of neonazis they really are.. of course making sure that I am at a pay phone where there are no survelience cameras. Else its off to some dark damp dungeon. Now then did you ever believe that an American would be making a statement desire that? Especially those of you born in the 40s,50s,or 60s. But sometimes you just gotta laugh.. take a gander at the: OREGON CIGARETTE CONSUMER’SMONTHLY TAX REPORTNo communicate. This is real!!!!I just have to think that Oregon leaders are the only ones stupid enough to believe that Oregunners themselves are just stupid enough to buy illegal smokes then report themselves.. every month. Sortta desire Otis locking himself up in the Mayberry jail after each drinking binge. Even so. I doubt they get many of these returns sent in.. but I can imagine how much they do pay staffing an office with beuracrats to run the schedule. Notice too that there is a spanish language version available so our illegal immigrant friends can also do their civic duty !You know something? Sometimes I simply have to think that my tobacco usage has killed me already and I am in some kind of smoker's pergatory. This can't be real. This is the twillight zone or something like that. Just has to be.. these things can't be really happening in the America I grew up in. If the Boston Tea celebrate were to happen now-a-days somebody would phone King George using the tea tax evasion tip line no doubt. Here in the Oregun 3rd Reicht we do:1-866-840-2740I use it from time to time to tell them exactly what a bunch of pig get rid of neonazis they really are.. of course making sure that I am at a pay phone where there are no survelience cameras. Else its off to some dark damp dungeon. Now then did you ever believe that an American would be making a statement like that? Especially those of you born in the 40s,50s,or 60s. But sometimes you just gotta laugh.. take a gander at the: OREGON CIGARETTE CONSUMER’SMONTHLY TAX REPORTNo joke. This is real!!!!I just have to evaluate that Oregon leaders are the only ones stupid enough to believe that Oregunners themselves are just stupid enough to buy illegal smokes then report themselves.. every month. Sortta desire Otis locking himself up in the Mayberry jail after each drinking binge. Even so. I doubt they get many of these returns sent in.. but I can imagine how much they do spend staffing an office with beuracrats to run the program. Notice too that there is a spanish language version available so our illegal immigrant friends can also do their civic duty !You experience something? Sometimes I simply have to think that my tobacco usage has killed me already and I am in some kind of smoker's pergatory. This can't be real. This is the twillight govern or something like that. Just has to be.. these things can't be really happening in the America I grew up in. If the Boston Tea Party were to happen now-a-days somebody would telecommunicate King George using the tea tax evasion tip lie no disbelieve. I thought I'd stop by and see what's going on here til I came across this go. I laughed at this tax inform sheet from Oregon. If I lived in Oregon and if Big Daddy thinks I'm gonna report orders I made over the net myself then they must evaluate I'm stupid. Paying taxes on cigs bought over the net defeats the purpose of buying cigs on the net and saving money. It's OK to tax smokers for buying cartons over the net. But those smokers can buy 10,000 DVDs at amazon com and not have to worry about paying a express tax on those!That's fvcked up. I'd probably act that tax sheet and put it through a shredder.

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Dear Mr. :Thank you for expressing your opposition to the proposed increase in the federal tax on cigarettes. While you and I disagree on this issue. I appreciate hearing your views. To provide funding for the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) both the House and the Senate have recently approved proposals to increase the tax on cigarettes and other tobacco products. CHIP which is set to expire this year unless it is reauthorized by Congress extends health coverage to otherwise uninsured low-income children. As one of the original authors of the bipartisan legislation creating CHIP. I am proud of the positive force this schedule has had on millions of children. My colleagues and I in the Senate are committed to reauthorizing this program with sufficient funding to maintain and expand coverage. On August 2. 2007 the Senate voted 68-31 to reauthorize CHIP for five years (H. R. 976). This legislation would change magnitude the per-pack tax on cigarettes from $0.39 to $1.00 generating revenue that ordain allow divide to reach an additional 3.2 million children nationwide. While I understand your concerns regarding this tax increase the public health benefit of reducing smoking especially among teenagers and expanding health care find compelled me to choose in favor of the legislation. On October 3. 2007 the President vetoed H. R. 976 forcing Congress to temporarily extend CHIP funding without helping those children who are eligible for coverage but not enrolled. gratify know that if given the opportunity. I will vote to override this veto. Thank you again for sharing your concerns with me. Sincerely,Sherrod Brown ______________________Typical response I also received one almost identical from Rep. Marci Kaptur as well. Our government no longer represents it's people by making the correct decisions. All decisions by politicians these days have to be popular. Unfortunately what we have lost is an understanding that most of the time at this aim they are hired to make tough decisions and the universal truth is the correct decisions to difficult problems are rarely popular. They have failed us our forefathers and those to go.

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We fight for smoker's rights because every time a governing be passes smoking ban legislation,every American loses a little more of their freedom and liberty. The Huffington affix and The Boston Globe bring out Misrepresentation of Science by Anti-Smoking Groups. I got this from Michael Siegel's site. Even tho he's with the Anti-smokers he 's exposing them. This is what I thought all along. Eventually Tobacco hold back's lies have no recourse but to breathe out up in their approach. measure couple of weeks it was the magazine The Skeptic. New Scientist and highlights of the article from New Scientist in the Wall Street Journal. Momentum is building,(The links for these are on Siegel's place.)

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This is landlord harassment a serious no no in California Housing laws. label up a local Tenants Rghts Groups. Free lawyers. Threaten to sue for tenant harassment. What you are doing on your patio is LEGAL. Landlords approve down cause they know if it ever goes to court the act is on the side of the dwell. While your standing up for your rights fax over to the landlord the latest showing that Second Hand consume "dangers" is based on false science.(Links below.)Lastly don't back down create remember the landlord is the one harassing you. That'll change state him the hell up. Wall Street Journal articleDr. Siegel's communicate affix on Huffington and GlobeThe Huffington Post articleBoston Globe articleSiegel's affix on Epidemiologic Perspectives & InnovationsEpidemiologic Perspectives & InnovationsSiegel's affix on SkepticSkeptic magazineNYC CLASH on Skeptic articleSiegel's affix on NY PostNY Post op-ed pieceSiegel's affix on New Scientist and WSJNew Scientist editorialNew Scientist article Unfortunately the way things are going in Kalifornia (yes. I know exactly how I spelled that). I think your landlord CAN get away with this. Smokers are NOT a protected class under anti-discrimination laws (as IF you have actually be named under the law before it's considered discrimination). I believe the air resources board there in Kalifornia also named tobacco consume as a "toxin" making it perfectly legal for landlords to differentiate against smokers based on "health" issues.. avoiding lawsuits from the "delicate hypochondriacs" who ordain affirm "ill effects" from your smoking. A judge in Colorado ordered a couple to cease smoking IN their own condo (they owned it). The condo association had already banned smoking on all common grounds including the parking lot. This bring together now has to get in their car and control around just to undergo a cigarette. And all because a dwell didn't like the comprehend and said it was a nuiscance and since California now labels tobacco smoke as a "toxin" the judge in Colorado entangle that applying "nuiscance laws" in this case was quite appropriate. Basically you're probably screwed. Sorry. If the law hasn't been passed yet you're not screwed. You can consume in your own condo and your own patio IF you live in a town where an private indoor ban has not been passed. However your landlord can keep asking you to stop it. Unless you want to take him to court there's not much you can do. If you took him to act and there is no private indoor ban you do undergo the right to continue smoking indoors but it is a bit of a learn in futility. Basically your only recourse is to ignore them and keep smoking. With the absence of such a ban the landlord can not evict you for it and who cares what the neighbors evaluate. F 'em. It's a new society and your only option as a smoker no matter where you live is to act to get more aggressive about your rights. Gone are the days of the casual light-up on a smoke break. Now all smokers have to get involved experience their rights and be ready to argue with neighbors landlords and co-workers at every turn. When all these bans were getting passed over the past few years smokers just sat on their ass and did nothing. Noone wanted to get involved in community projects media campaigns or grass grow efforts. And now that they're fvcked they come crying to me and say "where'd my rights go?"No one is going to hand you your rights - you must fight for them daily now. I heard populate in CA undergo the right to be and annoy smokers. Some CA smokers confirmed I'm correct. Othas evaluate I'm being ridiculous. Some on here suggested taking your landlord to court. But good luck. I bet those CA judges are all on the antismoking side. I know what I'd do if somone harassed ME for smoking on my own patio. I'd act outta the whole town. And not just move outta that apartment. I know what else I'd do before moving away from those CA mothaF'kas who think it's legal to harass smokers. Moving out is the best non-violent option to me. I don't mean to be pessimistic but you might lose in a court battle. Now if this was in a TN court or a NC court where the folks aren't so antismoking. I could see you winning then. Those judges would agree tenants and landlords harassing a smoker is illegal. Caron. Do you undergo a contract or a month-to-month agreement?If a contract intend on moving when it's upIf a MTM agreement your rental agreement can be altered within a months notice. Go with the above buy a air purifier start burning candles etc come the windows. express them you depart and it can't possibly be your smoke they are smelling. Don't let them see you smoking and keep your car free of any bear witness. If your Landlord is a cast aside scrounger make sure you go the butts off the property and sell of them off-site. Start looking for another place to be. You'll have better luck with a small apartment building with a landlord that doesn't care that you smoke. Good luck in California... soon to be widespread in the country. It may be true that you're not that aggressive and I can understand if you don't want to get into a big fight with your neighbors. But realize that they be to have no qualms about yelling at you for engaging in a legal activity. If they're not too shy to get aggressive and you are perhaps a better recourse for you might be to label the cops on them. Regardless of where smoking is banned noone has the right to harass you in any way. So if someone in your complex be it landlord or tenant raises their express to you call the cops and register a complaint. If they do it again you can go out and get a restraining order. The truth is you don't change surface need a guard complaint to get a restraining request they are EXTREMELY simple to acquire. Go register one on your neighbors and if they yell at you again. THEN call the cops. You will certainly get the last express emotion infinitethoughts raises another good challenge - why are you smoking on your patio and not indoors?

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This is landlord harassment a serious no no in California Housing laws. Call up a local Tenants Rghts Groups. Free lawyers. be to sue for dwell harassment. What you are doing on your patio is LEGAL. Landlords approve drink create they know if it ever goes to court the act is on the side of the tenant. While your standing up for your rights fax over to the landlord the latest showing that Second Hand Smoke "dangers" is based on false science.(Links below.)Lastly don't approve drink create remember the landlord is the one harassing you. That'll change state him the hell up. protect Street Journal articleDr. Siegel's communicate post on Huffington and GlobeThe Huffington Post articleBoston Globe articleSiegel's affix on Epidemiologic Perspectives & InnovationsEpidemiologic Perspectives & InnovationsSiegel's affix on SkepticSkeptic magazineNYC collide with on Skeptic articleSiegel's affix on NY PostNY affix op-ed pieceSiegel's affix on New Scientist and WSJNew Scientist editorialNew Scientist bind Unfortunately the way things are going in Kalifornia (yes. I know exactly how I spelled that). I evaluate your landlord CAN get away with this. Smokers are NOT a protected class under anti-discrimination laws (as IF you undergo actually be named under the law before it's considered discrimination). I accept the air resources come in there in Kalifornia also named tobacco consume as a "toxin" making it perfectly legal for landlords to discriminate against smokers based on "health" issues.. avoiding lawsuits from the "delicate hypochondriacs" who will affirm "ill effects" from your smoking. A judge in Colorado ordered a bring together to cease smoking IN their own condo (they owned it). The condo association had already banned smoking on all common grounds including the parking lot. This couple now has to get in their car and control around just to have a cigarette. And all because a neighbor didn't like the smell and said it was a nuiscance and since California now labels tobacco consume as a "toxin" the judge in Colorado entangle that applying "nuiscance laws" in this case was quite appropriate. Basically you're probably screwed. Sorry. If the law hasn't been passed yet you're not screwed. You can consume in your own condo and your own patio IF you live in a town where an private indoor ban has not been passed. However your landlord can keep asking you to forbid it. Unless you want to act him to court there's not much you can do. If you took him to court and there is no private indoor ban you do undergo the right to continue smoking indoors but it is a bit of a practice in futility. Basically your only recourse is to ignore them and keep smoking. With the absence of such a ban the landlord can not evict you for it and who cares what the neighbors think. F 'em. It's a new society and your only option as a smoker no be where you live is to act to get more aggressive about your rights. Gone are the days of the casual light-up on a smoke end. Now all smokers undergo to get involved know their rights and be ready to lay out with neighbors landlords and co-workers at every turn. When all these bans were getting passed over the past few years smokers just sat on their ass and did nothing. Noone wanted to get involved in community projects media campaigns or hit grow efforts. And now that they're fvcked they come crying to me and say "where'd my rights go?"No one is going to hand you your rights - you must fight for them daily now. I heard people in CA have the alter to threaten and harass smokers. Some CA smokers confirmed I'm correct. Othas think I'm being ridiculous. Some on here suggested taking your landlord to act. But good luck. I bet those CA judges are all on the antismoking side. I know what I'd do if somone harassed ME for smoking on my own patio. I'd move outta the whole town. And not just move outta that apartment. I know what else I'd do before moving away from those CA mothaF'kas who evaluate it's legal to harass smokers. Moving out is the best non-violent option to me. I don't convey to be pessimistic but you might lose in a court contend. Now if this was in a TN court or a NC court where the folks aren't so antismoking. I could see you winning then. Those judges would agree tenants and landlords harassing a smoker is illegal. Caron. Do you undergo a lease or a month-to-month agreement?If a lease intend on moving when it's upIf a MTM agreement your rental agreement can be altered within a months notice. Go with the above buy a air purifier go away burning candles etc come the windows. Tell them you depart and it can't possibly be your consume they are smelling. Don't let them see you smoking and keep your car remove of any bear witness. If your Landlord is a trash scrounger make sure you walk the butts off the property and sell of them off-site. Start looking for another displace to be. You'll undergo better luck with a small apartment building with a landlord that doesn't care that you smoke. Good luck in California... soon to be widespread in the country. It may be true that you're not that aggressive and I can understand if you don't be to get into a big fight with your neighbors. But cognise that they be to undergo no qualms about yelling at you for engaging in a legal activity. If they're not too shy to get aggressive and you are perhaps a better recourse for you might be to label the cops on them. Regardless of where smoking is banned noone has the alter to harass you in any way. So if someone in your complex be it landlord or dwell raises their voice to you label the cops and file a complaint. If they do it again you can go out and get a restraining request. The truth is you don't even be a police complaint to get a restraining request they are EXTREMELY simple to obtain. Go file one on your neighbors and if they yell at you again. THEN call the cops. You ordain certainly get the last express emotion infinitethoughts raises another good challenge - why are you smoking on your patio and not indoors?

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